In July of 2012 Phoenix Group asked Bert to come to Egypt to work with them on developing a Solar Energy Farm in Egypt. Bert flew to Egypt and was able to meet with many of the leaders in Egyptian Academia at one of three energy conferences held in Egypt each year. There were many in the group who had much knowledge and studied the engineering side of the equation but very few who had worked with businessmen in getting funding for these types of efforts. At the time there was a major crisis in Egypt as Diesel fuel prices were rising because there was no longer any money to continue the fuel subsidies as the Muslim Brotherhood was not able to keep Egypt profitable and thus the tax base was diminishing substantially. As Bert had recently had these exact same conversations with the Ministry of Energy in Thailand and discussing the issues they had with this same type of system, it was still fresh in his mind what needed to be done by the Egyptians. Bert was able to meet with the Ministry of Electricity and Energy as well as the Egyptian Electricity Holding Company to discuss providing power purchase agreements with adders to incentivize commercial entities to develop large scale solar power farms in the desert but also to incentivize the neighborhoods who were already developing solar farms of their own to sell back excess power to the Rural and Cairo Electrification Authority. The New and Renewable Energy Authority (NREA) did not want to give up any of its rights on developing renewable energy projects and was against any expansion by private companies into the renewable energy environment. Bert was able to have seven meetings with managers in the Ministry on an amendment to the current electricity laws to include a power buyback system that would be similar to the modified law in Thailand. The talks were going good and then Military took over the government and talk were shut down. In June of 2014 the Phoenix Group said that talks were starting again about putting in a buy pack program for commercial entities to invest and develop a solar farm.